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I've heard of spraying a head gasket with copper spray.  Is there a greater benefit to using a solid copper head gasket?

Norby Urbano
 
Some people swear by using a copper spray on their head gasket, but more important is prepping the head and block surfaces to be clean, smooth, and flat.  Surface flaws like scratches, pits, valleys, debris, or roughness on the head and block surfaces can distort the seal and leave gaps for leaks.  As head gasket designs and materials and engines have evolved, the recommended range for surface roughness has gone down, but it really depends on your engine and head gasket choice for how smooth the surfaces should be.  Generally, composite gaskets can handle a rougher finish than MLS gaskets (but won't last as long, especially with a lot of shearing forces) and aluminum surfaces need to be smoother than cast iron.  Combine these two (aluminum and MLS) and you may want the surfaces ground or lapped manually to perhaps less than 15 Ra (micrometers)! Getting that smooth a surface is time consuming and many machine shops don't have surface grinders or lapping tables and fly cut the heads and blocks instead.  Rougher surfaces ain't gonna fly with a high compression ratio or lots of boost for most head gaskets.  Though on some occasions, such as with bi-metal engines that may experience transverse shearing forces due to different expansion and contraction properties, too smooth a finish could also cause the gasket to have issues with cold sealability or premature failure in places where there isn't much holding the gasket in place (ie. between the head bolts), especially when faced with high combustion pressures so you need to make sure you machine to the recommended surface roughness for your application. 
 
Cosworth head gasket
Cosworth head gaskets use a folded stopper layer around the cylinder to provide an exceptional seal. They also surface grind their heads to about 8 Ra and blocks to between 8 and 12 Ra; on race engines, they hand lap the blocks down to 4-6 Ra, virtually a mirror finish.  Smooth like butter!
 
MLS gaskets require smoother surfaces mostly because they rely more on coatings or clamping loads for sealing.  Most factory head gaskets and some aftermarket ones are coated from the material supplier.  The coating is very even and flat and helps with microsealing.  Some head gaskets don't have this coating at all and others are only coated in certain areas.  Coating the gasket after the manufacturing process may cause uneven distribution of the coating, developing high or low spots.  
 
Factory gaskets and some aftermarket companies (ie. Cosworth or Tomei) die cut their head gaskets which keeps the coating intact.  With laser cut head gaskets, the metal is heated.  This could cause an uneven hardness and the coating can be distorted, neither good for adequately sealing substantial combustion pressures.  Spraying these head gaskets with copper could act like a band-aid in a pinch, but they could also cause the gasket to fail, especially with gaskets that are pre-coated.  Worse off, the copper or other sealant may decide to stick a valve in the down position, leaving it to be rear-ended by a speeding piston.  Why put all that time and money into building an engine to not pony up for the most reliable way of modifying it?  Factory head gaskets are not treated with copper spray.  
 
The 2-5 multi layer steel construction of an MLS gasket really provides the springiness and elasticity to withstand varying combustion pressures and provide the best seal for most uses. Solid copper head gaskets are used more for racing purposes like top fuel dragster engines.  They are beneficial for high boost pressures, nitrous oxide, or high compression ratio engines, and readily available in different thicknesses to adjust the compression ratio.  Copper conducts heat well stabilizing the head and block temperatures, useful for tuning.  It also dissipates hot spots more quickly.  Copper has a much higher tensile strength and a 25% coefficient of elasticity, meaning it can stretch and take a beating more before simply failing completely. Copper head gaskets can usually be reused a time or two with proper handling and installation, helpful if you tear down your engine frequently.  Some tuners will even reuse a MLS gasket, but I wouldn't recommend it, especially after it's gone through a thermal cycle.  Copper head gaskets require a light seal around oil/coolant passages.  Installing an O-ring (machine the block for the wire and put the receiver groove on the head) can direct the necessary clamping load on the combustion sealing areas.
 
 
I'm Shahab Ghosni and I'm 25. I got your email from Ask Sarah. I have a Renault 5 and I'm planning to install a turbo charger on it!  Is it possible for you to help me about it?  I have a lot of questions but I won't bother you unless necessary. If you can, please let me know!
 
Let me send you my invoice first and I'll be over with the necessary parts and tools after the check clears.  A turbo installation is far too complicated to get into on these Q&A's.  Get a book like Corky Bell's Maximum Boost for everything you need to know about designing, testing, and installing turbos.  You can also pick up my book, How to Build Performance Nissan Sport Compact Cars. It doesn't cover your exact engine but does go into detail about how to match compressor maps for your engine and what power you're looking to make, how to calculate the correct size fuel system for your turbo, and other helpful info.  And of course, you'll have to consider your budget!  The factory turbocharged Renault 5's use pistons that provide a lower compression ratio, beneficial for turbocharging.  You may end up spending more money to turbo your N/A version than it's worth. Just add up the ECU, intake plumbing, exhaust and manifold, intercooler, and modifying your fuel system for starters.  Though you could argue that what you learn from a custom build is priceless!
 
Renault 5 ad from 1976
The Renault 5 ("Le Car" to us Americans) never really gained popularity in the states.  With ads like these, who could blame people for not buying them?  "Let's go park down by the river bed and wash our car!"
 

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Comments

XArmy
# XArmy
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:03 AM
"wear protective eye wear so you don't get pieces of the busted nut in your eye!" I lol'd until my boss asked me if I was OK.
8695Beaters
# 8695Beaters
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 7:43 AM
For the lug nuts you'll almost certainly have to cut them off. Back in my tire shop days we had to cut off a few nuts. Just be careful and don't hit the stud or you can weaken it and it will snap off. Some shops will do it for you if you ask nicely and show them a few greenbacks.
Dave Coleman
# Dave Coleman
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:32 AM
I borrowed a trailer with wheel locks and the owner had lost the key. The socket trick didn't work on it, so we ended up welding new lug nuts to the back of the locking ones. Then we could put a wrench on the new nut and use it to turn the lock. Worked so well we just kept using the goofy looking things.
Street Surgeon
# Street Surgeon
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:08 AM
Can we get an article on hand lapping a head/block?
CrickiKaze
# CrickiKaze
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:23 AM
i always wondered about using a cooper head gasket, it was on my things to get and I might put it back on there but have to go into alot of effort to supply the info for the manufacture. Its my DD so I'm still on the fence about it.
DieselTech
# DieselTech
Friday, January 27, 2012 11:38 AM
On the subject of MLS head gasket coatings, in the 6.0L Powerstroke world, "black onyx" coated head gaskets are a popular, and about the only, aftermarket option for head gaskets. Ive heard some people swear by them and some that swear by factory gaskets, but Ive never found an actual explanation of what this coating is, beyond that its and elastomer coating. I see Cosworth gaskets use a nitrile rubber coating, is it similar to that?
sapo racing
# sapo racing
Friday, April 20, 2012 10:49 PM
I have a ser 20 DE of my problem be that warms me after 8 laps on the track it starts to warm up
I can do to solve this problem

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