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RYAN GATES VOLK

Ryan Gates

Rays has perhaps the most advanced manufacturing processes in the world for the production of its wheels. In the past, Rays has been very tight lipped about the process keeping its technology to itself. We had the privilege of being able to review the process and to write about it. As you probably know, Volk wheels are known for having the seemingly diametrically opposing properties of being both light and strong. The main reason why is that most of Rays Volk brand of wheels are forged. Forging and the FEA design process are what is largely responsible for the wheel's lightness and strength.

Rays forging
The first stage of making a Rays forged wheel is when the blank billet is heated and placed in the first set of dies.  The rough shape of the wheel is created here.  It takes several forging steps to get to the wheel's final shape.  The metal cannot be moved too far per step or it might fracture.

Forging is when a billet of metal, usually aluminum although Rays also forges Magnesium wheels, is heated then pressed with tremendous force into a die in the shape of the wheel. Metal, like wood, has a grain. In metal this is a crystalline structure that the metallic molecules are arranged in. The pressure of forging refines the grain structure, making it tighter and more cohesive. This reduces the chances of internal flaws in the structure creating weak spots where stress can concentrate and cracks develop.

Rays forging vs others
In Rays multistage forging process the metal's grain is oriented around the geometry of the wheel.  This is superior for strength and fatigue resistance as in the top left example.  Other forged wheels only forge the wheels into a very rough shape then do a lot of machining to create the wheel's final shape.  The result is interrupted grain as shown on the bottom right.  This is vastly inferior for strength and fatigue resistance.

Forging also directionally orients the grain around the form of the die. Like wood, metal is stronger with the grain instead of against it and putting the grain in the direction of the spokes, hub and rim sections improves strength and durability. Finally, the strength of a metal can be improved by cold working, especially with metals like aluminum. By cold working, we don't mean room temperature but rather at a temperature less than the melting point of the metal. The stress of cold working when the billet is smashed into the die further refines the grain of the metal in the areas where it is moved the most, like the spokes, giving extra strength.

There are other forged wheels on the market but none with all of the properties created by Rays' unique process. Most forged wheels use a cruder, less detailed die which produces a wheel blank that is only somewhat close to the final shape of the wheel. This blank is then machined into the final shape with the cosmetic features like the spokes and windows being created by cutting. Although this is much better than casting, this method does not enjoy the near perfect alignment of the grain structure and leaves the wheel with a thicker and heavier rim section.

Ryan Gates EVO X VOLK

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Comments

538
# 538
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:46 AM
Awesome article! What do you think of the strength of Enkei RPF1 wheels? Would you recommend them for track use and are they comparable in strength to Volks?
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:51 AM
They are decently strong and a good wheel, perhaps the best of the cast wheels, they are not a good as the Volks of course but they are cheaper. Personally I only use Volks but if I was on a tighter budget I would not have a problem with them at all.
Jim
# Jim
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:49 AM
Wow. That CNC machine is dimensionally accurate to within one thousandths of a mm. That is impressive. I wonder how they achieve such a tolerance.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:03 AM
It's normal for a top line CNC machine nowdays.
8695Beaters
# 8695Beaters
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:31 AM
A lot of people say that when you buy a name brand part you're just paying for the name. In another forum I mentioned that all big names come from somewhere and if their products were not top-notch, they would never have made it to the top to begin with. This is proof positive why Volks are at the top. Our SAE team was considering a set of Volks for our car 2 years ago. We went with Kaiser instead. They have been good, but they have bent. The Volks obviously wouldn't have and perhaps next year we will finally get the budget to upgrade.
BenFenner
# BenFenner
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:10 PM
Buying fake Volks makes absolutely no sense to me. You get 95-100% of the shitty looks and 0% of the excellent manufacturing process and superior engineering. It's a lose-lose situation! =D
M-P
# M-P
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:28 PM
Great article...I loved my old TE37's. I am trying my hardest to not go the cheaper route with RPF1's on my FD track car...I would love a set of CE28N's.

BenFenner, since when do Volks look shitty?
bigdave
# bigdave
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:32 PM
This article is awesome. I drive a lot of 4x4 stuff, so its a lot easier to understand why driving a large tire and heavy wheel on the streets is tiresome.
until240
# until240
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 5:18 PM
Aren't you worried about getting your $3000-4000 wheels stolen?

After price, this is the next thing I worry about.
Jim
# Jim
Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:59 PM
Great article Mike. Never knew how much work went into them. Now I know why they cost that much. I was just curious. Roughly how much is a top line CNC machine?

# until240

I took the Volk & Rays stickers off my TE37s because I thought they looked better without them and I also didn't want to attract that kind of attention. I worry too sometimes. Without the stickers, I hope people think I'm rolling RAVS VORKS. Isn't that the exact opposite of a girl buying a fake LV purse. Ha ha ha.
bigdave
# bigdave
Thursday, June 24, 2010 3:33 PM
Just buy 4 sets of wheel locks, 4 locks for each wheel :P
Rush
# Rush
Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:15 PM
Perfect article!! I want more of this kind of tech
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Thursday, June 24, 2010 10:26 PM
Want more of this kind of tech? Make sure you spread the link to this story to your friends via email, facebook, and forums you frequent. The only way Mike and staff are going to be able to continue writing cool shit like this is if there are visitors and of course, advertisers.
speedball3
# speedball3
Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:38 PM
Jim, maybe you could go onto Ebay and buy some sick RAV VORKS stickers to throw off some potential thieves and for that *bling* look... =P

Crazy the amount of work that goes into forging a wheel. It's amazing that they can nearly complete a wheel by hitting it a couple times. =)

Oh and maybe it's just me, but I'm not used to reading about RPF1's being cheap. Then again, I haven't really shopped for non-OEM wheels, so what do I know? Though there was the guy on craigslist who was selling steelies w/wheel covers for $600.....
until240
# until240
Friday, June 25, 2010 9:53 AM
#Jim

That's actually a good idea. And I suppose that's what insurance is for.

#speedball3

Cheap is relative. Volks are about $600+ per wheel, RPF1's are about $350 a wheel, Rotas are about $250 per wheel. This is assuming 18" wheels.

Jim
# Jim
Friday, June 25, 2010 10:19 AM
# speedball3# & until240, I agree and like both your comments. I should just paint some red Chinese dragons over them and get it over with. Ha ha ha! = )
Jim
# Jim
Friday, June 25, 2010 10:47 AM
Eric, going off your idea, shouldn't Motoiq set up a facebook page for people to "Like," or set up accounts on other community sites too. A lot of stars do it. It's not something you really have to keep up with but just a sign post to direct friends of friends of friends to check out your site. Sometimes I check out my friends "Likes" on facebook just for curiosity sake. Might help to get the word out.
Just_Wanna_Drive
# Just_Wanna_Drive
Friday, June 25, 2010 5:33 PM
Excellent article [as always]! Very informative, I even linked to this article from our local forums [like w/ all my favorites].

I'm pretty sure that's supposed to be .001" [inch]. MM's are broken down to tenths when dealing w/ machining process and tools.

l--------------l ~1"
l-l ~2mm

Our HAAS CNC machines at work are pretty new and CAN get to within .0005 on a very slow run.
ProTree
# ProTree
Friday, June 25, 2010 10:11 PM
Mike, can you explain Enkei's MAT process and SSR's semi solid forge process also. thanks!!
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:20 AM
Jimbo: good call on the "like" action. I think there's a giant list of stuff that the site guys have on their to do list, but a great idea. Mike, Frank, Jeff what do you guys think?

ProTree: Enkei MAT = fancy way to describe pressure casting. I mean c'mon, MAT stands for Most Advanced Technology. I'm sorry, but that is lame sounding. While it is probably an advanced casting procedure, it is still cast.

You can read about SSR's SSF process here, but keep in mind that its a virtual sales brochure: Tire Rack. I like Volks, but I've always liked SSRs too.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Saturday, June 26, 2010 4:09 AM
We do have a Facebook page, its our top referral.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/MotoIQcom/90592438730?ref=ts

MAT is a cast wheel with a roll formed rim section. It's much better than a conventional cast wheel but not as good as forged, especially not like the Rays 3D forging method.

SSF is also called squeeze casting, the wheel is cast and when it is still mushy, not fully solidified, the mold squeezes the wheel into its final shape. This is way better than casting but not close to the Rays forging method.

Top CNC machines can get to within 0.0001 nowdays, what used to be grinding tolerance.
Jim
# Jim
Saturday, June 26, 2010 10:34 AM
My bad. I guess I was searching under friends in Facebook, and the right column gets cut off even when I fully expand the page on my laptop so I never noticed the Facebook icon.
Just_Wanna_Drive
# Just_Wanna_Drive
Sunday, June 27, 2010 6:31 AM
I stand corrected.. That is very impressive that they build a wheel to that close of a spec. Helps explain the $600+ per wheel price tag as well.
BenFenner
# BenFenner
Monday, June 28, 2010 12:49 PM
M-P, we could get into an in-depth artistic discussion about why Volks look bad but I'm sure I wouldn't change your opinion on the matter, so I'll spare everyone the diatribe.

Obviously that is my opinion, and looks are always subjective. I just have a very solid opinion of what makes a good looking wheel, and what doesn't. Almost all Rays wheels look bad to me for very specific reasons. I'm sure almost everyone else disagrees. No big deal. =)
Random Thoughts Racing
# Random Thoughts Racing
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 8:53 PM
Thanks for the story Mike, its always interesting to study those companies who work their craft rather than just manufacture parts.
Eric L
# Eric L
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:05 PM
How do you guys feel about Yokohama Advan wheels?
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:12 PM
RAYS makes Advan wheels.
Eric L
# Eric L
Saturday, July 03, 2010 1:53 PM
really? i didn't know rays made cast wheels.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Saturday, July 03, 2010 2:31 PM
Some of Rays non Volk wheels like some Gram Lites and some Avan are cast.

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