posted on May 22, 2010 19:40
The dude on the right is taking Tarzan's place for 3rd since Tarzan drove two cars that placed 1st and 3rd. That's Emp on the left.
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For Eric's first reoprt click here
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As you can see, things didn't quite work out for the Sierra Sierra EVO 8 once the CyberEVO got up and running. The CyberEVO's performance was nothing short of amazing. While SSE, Emp, and myself tried our best, we could not defy the laws of physics. I believe it is the CyberEVOs weight of 1125kg (2475lb) versus the SSE EVO 8's weight of 1263kg (2777lb) that made the CyberEVO so damn fast. It might also be Tarzan having driven all the CyberEVOs since the EVO 5 as well, but the bottom line is that the CyberEVO is faster. Needless to say, SSE learned that a proper race car doesn't necessarily make an ideal time attack car. A proper race car cage, brakes, chassis, and coolng system does not make a lightweight time attack car. Clown the CyberEVO's cage, safety equipment (or lack of), and rough attention to detail, but it is fast as hell and does exactly what it is supposed to do very well. You can bet there will be some changes and/or plan changes with the new SIerra Sierra car (whatever car it may end up being).
The Cusco/Tomei STi is also very fast, but the Cosworth powered SSE EVO 8 was able to fend the STi off with horsepower. The Aussie Lotus picked it up considerably on day two also. The Panspeed FD hurt a turbo and the team changed it, but the track conditions were already deteriorating by the last session. Mark Berry also piloted his Advan/Hi Octane BNR34 GTR to his personal best after a couple days of struggling with problems.
Overall Superlap Australia threw an excellent event. I would approximate spectator count to be in the 8-10,000 people range and there were something like 100 competitors. I think Eastern Creek is almost ideally setup for a time attack with their parking, garage facilities, and spectator viewing facilities. It was the best time attack I have attended to date. Aside from the international time attack teams and cars, for the crowds there was a drift demo with Mr. Ueno from Vertex and Yoshioka (I think he drives AE86s), enough Aussie hotties to make the day a little more pleasant, and plenty of vendors displaying their parts and services. I hope SSE gets invited to the 2011 Australian Superlap World Time Attack Challenge. I certainly look forward to next year's event.
It sounds like the Rev Speed magazine people from Japan are also interested in possibly throwing an international time attack in Japan. The Rev Speed time attacks are open to the public, but I'm sure they don't get crowds like the WTA although that's what they are banking on. Redline, Superlap (USA), and Time Attack UK are you reading this? Get a big tire sponsor and invite the top cars from other countries! Spectators will come.
Enough time attack...I've had a week of it straight. A press day was cancelled for Monday so I'm going to enjoy Sydney for the next several days. I will write some stuff on Australia when I get back. This place is awesome.
Volk CE28s on the SSE EVO 8 are the bomb. Thanks for letting me jack this picture whether you know it or not, Carter. The first two photos were taken by Alastair Ritchie from New Zealand.
Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:04 PM
let me be the FIRST to say great job! (while the link to the article from the front page is still messed up) ;) So is the new car gonna get a janky cage... err rollbar? Lemme know if you need help with the fab work, i'm good at half-assery builds!
Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:15 PM
Saturday, May 22, 2010 9:32 PM
Eric, was great that you guys came out and good to see what our cars are really capable of when taken to the next level like the SSE car and the other International entries. It was nice to have a chat with you, David and others in the team, it was really nice of you guys to make the time I know you were very busy. Hope to see you guys next year.
Sunday, May 23, 2010 12:21 AM
Eric, first of all, great job, regardless of the placement, you gave 110% and that's all it matters. It was one race, that's all. If there would be a championship....then other variables would come into play (reliability....)
Next time, I'm sure you know what to focus on.
I was shocked to see the result too (laptime of the Cyber EVO)...like you mentioned, its cage doesn't seem to be that safe. They're also running Tein RS, vs. Dynamic; stock Brembo calipers vs. GT Brembo....heavy AME wheels vs. Forged Volk....stock radiator? a stockish intake manifold vs. Kansai.....silicon couplers vs. Wiggins, the list goes on and on....amazing how that car stayed together after beating on it so muxh....and that rear wing accident wouldn't have happened if the brackets were bolted onto the chassis.....oh well...
Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:42 AM
Congrats to the team. I know that the next project for SSE will be even better and they will learn.
You should ask DK if they were using Pi Sim for their car.
Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:44 AM
I'm just very happy to see the Cusco/Tomei car held up and defined itself finally.
Now it needs another 100HP.
Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:38 PM
Congrats Eric and SSE. So does this mean that SSE is planning to replace the EVO or is the team planning a major revamp?
Sunday, May 23, 2010 9:12 PM
Hmm.... where else is there to save significant weight? The other option is more power of course :) What about an air brake like the Veyron?
Monday, May 24, 2010 8:44 AM
Thanks for the congrats all. I was thinking that 2nd place is actually a good thing overall since it will make the team, Emp, and I strive to improve the car further.
Dave: it was great talking to you and hopefully we'll be invited again next year. It was a great event and Sydney is an awesome city. WTA would be an awesome reason for me to return and visit. Good luck with your project too.
Alex: this is a perfect example of a combination of parts being more critically that they are suited for the specific application. As long as the combination of parts work for the team, car, and driver, then it doesn't matter who makes them. But FYI they are not off the shelf Tein RS shocks, stock Brembo calipers with good rotors and super aggressive pads are plenty good for a light car and one lap (time attack), the stock radiator is plenty good for one lap, the AME wheels are similar in weight to Volks (according to the AME guy I talked to), stockish intake manifold vs. Kansai is just to determine the power band, and Wiggins only improve reliability and not performance. If a car is built specifically for time attack and is light in weight, you can get away with a lot of things. It won't last for shit in a 30 minute session however. The SSE car can last a 30 minute session, but is over built and does not need to.
Mark: their Atlantic engineer Lee Dykstra used to use Pi Sim, but it was not used for this car. We should probably use it for the next car.
Jeff: I think the Cusco/Tomei car already defined itself as a damn fast car when it ran a 1:44.372 @ Buttonwillow. It will be interesting to see what Tomei does about the power since they have a fairly conservative philosophy.
Davio: not replace, but there has been discussions about a new car. They already have an EVO X chassis, but it has not been decided what will happen yet.
Khiem: more power is great, but we would be fighting physics with an overbuilt car like it is now. It was a big realization that the car is built well enough for a one hour FIA GT3 race, but it only needs to crank out ONE lap. I think it would be better to drop weight and then crank up the power. There are certainly places for the car to drop in weight. Off the bat I know of about 200 lbs. I'm not sure about the other 200 however. I'll leave that to Richard the team's engineer/manager.
Monday, May 24, 2010 10:24 AM
I think it's much better to start with an overbuilt car and work your way backwards than to start with and unsafe and unreliable car and try and chase problems. I know the SSE team are more than capable of making that car go on a diet.
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:31 PM
Congrats to all cars involved on a wonderful performance. However after reading some of comments, I find you guys are being a bit biased in what you're after your favorite came second to the Winner! Give jack his jacket, Cyber is damn fast time-attack car regardless of what you think. Props to Sierra for building a superbly crafted machine. Its absolute brilliant and when I read-up on it, my jaw dropped. However its heavy and possibly lowering that will give it the bite it needs. Another thing people haven't factored in, Tarzan knows that car like he probably knows his own wife or gf. No disrespect to EMP, and Sierra boys but this was a tough battle coming. Better luck next year.
Saturday, May 29, 2010 2:42 AM
Good job Eric. I know you guys will only get better and better. Can't wait to see what's in store next. I have to say one of the funniest comments I heard was made in reference to the Cyber Evo's safety.
"These are the same guys that put people in airplanes and crash them into ships."
I was not mean spirited and said in jest. Don't get me wrong. Congrats to Cyber Evo on their win and I hope all the Japanese teams will be there next year.
Saturday, May 29, 2010 12:28 PM
The CyberEVO and Tarzan came out and dished out some ass kicking lap times despite their struggles with engine reliability. CyberEVO and Tarzan definitely get props from me. But I can't wait until next year when the fastest in the world meet again.
Saturday, May 29, 2010 11:18 PM
Will all other teams have to go the way of the kamikaze in order to compete in the future with the super minimalist Japanese style time attack cars? I think putting regulations on an international event while it's relatively internationally young might be hard.
Sunday, May 30, 2010 7:39 AM
Well that's the trouble with hosting an international event. The cars are built to different rules and it is difficult to impose the rules of another sanctioning body's rules unless the car is just overbuilt like the SSE Evo. I think it would be better for all of the different organizer/sanctioning bodies to come to an agreement on safety regulations rather than the world time attack event host imposing one set of rules at an event. The trouble is I don't think this will ever happen.
On the other hand I do believe cars can be time attack optimized without sacrificing build quality and safety. The top teams will need to be more conscious of component weight and weight distribution when building the cars. Sure, the JDM kamikaze spec cars will be ultimately lighter still, but the difference could only be the weight of some roll cage tubes, safety nets, and fire extinguisher system.
Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:43 PM
Well said Eric. Now I really can't wait to see what SSE will do next in response.
Monday, May 31, 2010 9:49 AM
Yeah me too.
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