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Shocks

Since we built our car from a pile of scrap parts behind MD Automotive, our car didn't really have any shocks. The pile, though, had lots of them. MD Automotive (and before that, Jackson Racing) works on a lot of Miatas, and occasionally, when customers drop off their cars to get fancy new shocks installed, they don't actually want the crusty stock ones back. When that happens, they go in the pile.

  Frankenmiata pile-o-shocks  
  Without the help of a shock dyno, we never would have known which shocks to use.  

Every one of those discarded stock shocks looks the same, but inside they all have different levels of wear and different valving (Mazda is constantly tweaking the Miata's suspension tuning). We took the whole pile to the Muellerized shock dyno to sort them out, and the data from these tests showed us how to sort the shocks into matching pairs. We took the four stiffest ones and threw them on the car. Dead simple, if you have friends with shock dynos.

  Frankenmiata rear shock dyno  
  In the pile, there was no way to know which shocks went together. On Muellerized's Roehrig shock dyno, they clearly sorted themselves into pairs. Considering their unknown age and condition, it was impressive that some of the shocks matched their mates so well you couldn't even see two lines. Naturally, we decided to use the ones that made the red lines--the strongest of the bunch.  


Bump Stops

Bump stops are frequently overlooked as a suspension tuning tool, but on most cars, they're hugely important. Miatas are hotorious for flopping over onto their bump stops in any hard corner. The fact that they still manage to handle well when doing this is rather impressive, but experience has shown that hitting a mid-corner bump while flopped over onto the bump stops is no better in a Miata than in anything else. That goes double when using tired old shocks and springs that are 50% stiffer than stock.

  Frankenmiata trimming the bump stops  
   We dialed in the bump stops through trial and error. Luckily, foam stops can be trimmed with a sharp razor blade, so adjustments (in one direction only) are easy to make at the track.  

Most modern cars (NC Miatas included) now use urethane foam bump stops that are much softer and absorb much more energy than the hard rubber the NA and NB Miatas came with. The foam stops cushion the end of the suspension's travel rather than snubbing it and catapulting the car back to ride height as the rubber stops tended to. Many modern cars use such long, soft foam bump stops that the car actually sits on the stops at ride height, using the foam as a self-damping progressive spring. Ford loves doing this, so you can find long foam stops under Ford Contours, Mercury Cougars, and the back of any Ford Focus. They're also commonplace on Volkswagens. We grabbed a fistful of long, soft rear Mazda3 bump stops to try on the Frankenmiata.

In their full, long, squishy glory, Mazda3 bump stops are way too long, but by trimming either the top or bottom of the stop off, you can fabricate a variety of different bump stops with very different stiffness curves. You can also measure all these different spring rates if you spend some time on MD Automotive's old valve spring tester. This lets you make cool-looking force/displacement curves when you add the spring and bump stop rates together. This doesn't tell you what to do with these curves, though.

In the end, we simply took the car to the track and trimmed the stops until they felt right.

  Frankenmiata cornering on bump stops  
  Initially, we thought we could make the Frankenmiata work with stock springs and long Mazda3 bump stops, using the stops as long, progressive helper springs. This raised the ride height too much, though, causing the inside lift off the ground when the suspension topped out in a corner.  

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Comments

vintagerust
# vintagerust
Wednesday, March 10, 2010 10:51 PM
Just curious, but do you guys plan on doing any other Miata builds in the near future?
Dave Coleman
# Dave Coleman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:20 AM
Yes. I just bought a really clean '96 for $1500 and we're working on some really ridiculous project plans. Details will be revealed when we're more confident we can pull it off...
vintagerust
# vintagerust
Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:53 AM
Nice! I'm searching for a decent example right now, but nothing is on the market in my budget at the moment.
pcruz
# pcruz
Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:22 AM
Awsome article.... got a little lost on the suspension travel part, but the rest is clear as water and really enlightend me.
Thnks!
b drecksage
# b drecksage
Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:50 AM
awesome article! How do you fit in the car? I test drove a few miatas from the first generation and I barely fit in them, I'm 6'1" and 230lbs. I'd be interested in buying one to replace my sentra se-r, but i don't think i would fit in one.
Dave Coleman
# Dave Coleman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 10:00 AM
On the race car, we raised the roof and lowered the floor (that will be covered in the next story). On the street car, you just have to really WANT to fit. I'm 6'2" ~190 and its not a problem. If you need a bit more room, you can disassemble the seat and carve out about an inch of foam from the bottom cushion and backrest to get more space. Also slack the parking brake cable a bit and run with it up 2 clicks to clear your knee.
pcruz
# pcruz
Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:11 AM
Dave;
Bare with me, im new to suspensión tunning (and english is not my native toung). I read and reread the article.
I wanted to ask you:
The trick with the strut "top mounts". Is it the same principle as using Custom Shortened Konis o a B13 Se-R platform? that is that you gain compression travle on both? The first (on the miata) rises the shaft´s holding point... and the latter lowers the shocks bottom. ??

hope i made my self clear.
Dave Coleman
# Dave Coleman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 11:23 AM
pcruz, raising the upper mounting point of the shock lets you keep the same amount of total suspension stroke. You gain 3/4" of compression and lose 3/4" of droop.
To gain 3/4" of compression from a shortened shock, you'd have to give up 1.5" of droop travel.
If you're running race spring rates, the short shock is fine. The spring is not compressed very much at ride height, so it cannot extent to use the full stock droop travel anyway. If you have soft springs like we do, you're better off having the full travel available.
Rockwood
# Rockwood
Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:49 PM
How unhappy are the shocks with this spring rate? Ever thought of replacing the fluid with something thicker to get some more dampening?
Dave Coleman
# Dave Coleman
Thursday, March 11, 2010 3:56 PM
The shocks are perfectly happy in the cooler events. At buttonwillow in August, they felt a little underdamped, but just enough to reinforce smooth driving habits and keep you off the curbs, no more.

We're working on a way to get more damping, but it is Goldbergianly elaborate. It will be a few more months before its functional, and likely even longer before it is actually helping.
13BD16
# 13BD16
Thursday, March 11, 2010 7:47 PM
The way all this Lemons stuff is going, I bet way more performance parts/ideas with be created in the future based on Lemons development than in Nascar.
8695Beaters
# 8695Beaters
Friday, March 12, 2010 7:40 AM
There's probably more development going on in LeMons than there is in most forms of racing. It sounds like the whole key to victory in LeMons is having a LOT of connections willing to give you free stuff. And then being creative enough to know how to use it all.

When is the chassis section going up? I saw about a year ago another website showed how you fused the two cars together, but I can't seem to find that anymore.
Rockwood
# Rockwood
Friday, March 12, 2010 9:16 AM
Nah, a bunch of free bling parts would get you hundreds of penalty laps.

LeMons is more like Junkyard Megawars. Find free stuff lying around that truly is garbage, and turn it into something functional. A PhD in RE (redneck engineering) is truly required to be fast at Lemons.

Winning requires luck, RE and fast yet consistent (and contact free) drivers. Eyesore seems capable of engineering a lot of their own luck.

Dave, another thing I've always wanted to try for the shocks is to just run an extra set of shocks. Works for the redneck honky-tonk trucks... :)
jjacquot
# jjacquot
Friday, March 12, 2010 1:42 PM
The long way to say:

"We cut one coil off our front springs to improve handling. Just like everyone else.

But we did lots of math to make ourselves feel better."

Sometimes it hurts to have a big brain.
Dave Coleman
# Dave Coleman
Friday, March 12, 2010 2:37 PM
No, we cut one coil, disabled another coil, and restored the ride height with a spacer, and changed the bump stops to make the remaining travel more usable. The difference between that and cutting a coil was several hundred laps at the 24 hour ChumpCar race at Streets of Willow last month. There were two bumpstop-thumping coil-cutters there sullying the Miata name.

Stop being such an angry clobber monkey.
squirrely_z600
# squirrely_z600
Friday, March 12, 2010 5:48 PM
Dave, I don't believe "sullying the Miata name" is and adequate description. Didn't they weld the coils together? Those cars handled like a Super Ball bouncing and skipping all over the place anywhere the pavement was not glass smooth. They were passable almost effortlessly anywhere on the track...it was painful to watch. Hell, they were probably painful to drive.
Stephen Ingram
# Stephen Ingram
Friday, March 12, 2010 8:41 PM
I'll never complain about not having the money for some go fast part again.

This article is the stuff engineering wet dreams are made of!
Wrecked
# Wrecked
Monday, March 15, 2010 7:21 AM
Wow. I have to read this over a few times.
Chris
# Chris
Thursday, March 18, 2010 11:51 AM
FYI, you can get the Dunlop Direzzas in two 14" sizes now.
8695Beaters
# 8695Beaters
Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:46 AM
Well having the resources of a full shop seems to make thing s a lot easier. Most people don't have access to a shock dyno or mill and lathe for free. Or a huge pile of free spare Miata parts.

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