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Our first driving impressions left us quite impressed. There are no squeaks or rattles and very little wind and engine noise in the cabin.  The brakes are confidence inspiring awesome with good pedal feel.  The TRD suspension has an excellent calibration out of the box and its big hit capability is very good--on par with a good aftermarket off road performance suspension. Cornering performance is surprisingly good considering the raised high clearance Rock Warrior suspension; firm with very little body roll.  The turning radius is good considering the size of the truck.

TRD Rock Warrior Tundra

The power is amazing, this is one fast truck.  When towing our trailer, you literally have a hard time feeling that it is pulling something because the truck tows so well.  In fact we found ourselves towing at over 80 mph a few times by accident.  The truck easily holds 70 mph towing over the dreaded grapevine grade, never exceeding half throttle!  Not even our Gale Banks equipped F250 can do that!  Performance wise, we are stunned, no other half ton truck comes close to the mighty Tundra.

TRD Rock Warrior Tundra

Not all is perfect; the TRD suspension can be harsh, especially for freeway hop at around 65 mph although it did break in and improve over the first 1,000 miles.  Since we are used to driving firm riding cars like EVOs and WRXs this really isn't an issue and we prefer the Rock Warriors firm controlled ride over a boat like soft one. The programming for the drive by wire throttle has an exaggerated torque hump on tip in making it difficult to drive the truck smoothly without burning out or chirping the tires from a dead start, thank God for traction control, it is always active.  The heavy live axle has some characteristic leaf spring wheel hop even with staggered rear shocks.  The worst part about our Tundra is our fuel economy.  We average 15-16 mpg in mixed cycle driving.  However this is not bad considering the size and capability of our 4X4.  These complaints pale in comparison to the trucks virtues especially when compared to capabilities of its direct competition.  So amazing is the Tundra, that we suspect a major new car book was paid off to rate another truck better in its highly publicized truck shoot out.  We have driven both and we know the truth.

MotoIQ Project Tundra
A big heavy truck is hard to work on, good thing we have Technosqaure's well equipped shop!

So how does MotoIQ improve upon near perfection in a tow truck?  Since we drive Project Tundra on a nearly daily basis and heap abuse on it as it spends most of its life towing and hauling, for our peace of mind, we opted to pay extra for an all inclusive Toyota factory 100,000 mile warranty.  We didn't want to void our warranty but wanted to further refine our Tundra.  What to do? Our answer is to use TRD parts.  For those who don't know, TRD stands for Toyota Racing Development, Toyota's factory high performance arm, much like Mazda's Mazdaspeed and Nissan's Nismo.  The main advantage of TRD's parts is they are conceived using Toyota's superb OEM engineering and validation.  This means that TRD parts fit exactly, are 100% street legal and do not affect the factory warranty!

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Comments

TurkishJade
# TurkishJade
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:54 AM
TRD supercharger =). 504hp 550lb. You clearly need it.
b drecksage
# b drecksage
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 11:42 AM
I'm not into trucks at all, but i found this interesting...thanks
9krpmrx8
# 9krpmrx8
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:53 PM
Funny, my father has a pretty much stock 2004 Nissan Titan with 140k on the odometer and has towed a 5th wheel RV all over Texas during the summer in 100F weather for years and has never had any issues with overheating.

He is buying a bigger RV so he is buying a new F350 SD but the Titan is a great truck, too bad they don't make a 3/4 ton. The Tundra is a great truck from what I have heard though too so I'm sure you can't go wrong.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 8:00 PM
Texas is flat! Try going up the Baker grade in 100 degree heat in a Titan towing something.
9krpmrx8
# 9krpmrx8
Wednesday, January 13, 2010 9:40 PM
Yeah I guess. We have gone down to Florida and to New Mexico without issue but the New Mexico trip was in cold weather.
Chris
# Chris "Shaggy" Allen
Thursday, January 14, 2010 12:00 AM
The Baker Grade is Harsh 200ft below sealevel to what? 4000FT in 15mi.. My Titanic would overheat too and with my Trailer I got 4MPG.. Now with the Dodge I can hold 75mph up the Baker Grade with 12000-14000LB load .. God Bless the 1000LB/TQ the Tranny... Not so much.. My 48RE Gearbox is about gone :( Anyone know a good Bullet Proof Trans Builder.. I am looking at the $5.6K ATS gearbox or converting to the G56 Manual.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:06 AM
Not to mention the Titan's exploding ring gears, overheating diffs and trannies and warping brakes. Its a great engine wrapped in a truck with underated parts.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:08 AM
Not to mention the time your Dodge beat Khiem's EVO!!! And you had a bunch of stuff in the bed and 4 big people and one kid inside!
DieselTech
# DieselTech
Thursday, January 14, 2010 8:48 AM
Its nice to see you guys putting so much emphasis on safe towing. Its often overlooked. You should do an article about trailer maintenance while your at it. Neglected trailers lead to alot of accidents.

I have to say though... I would have liked to see an oil burner...
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:53 AM
Well for oil burners, I didn't know what to do. I like the F250SD a lot but the newer 6 liter engine sucks compared to the 7.2 older motor. We had both, the old truck when modded was a lot faster and got much better fuel economy. The late model F250 gets crappy mileage, I can never get better than 14 mpg out of it. The Tundra gets better mileage and is much faster.

The Dodge has the awesome EVO beating Cummings but I don't like the rest of the truck. The Silverado has the great Allison tranny but I don't know too much about the engine.

So I ended up buying the Tundra.
9krpmrx8
# 9krpmrx8
Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:10 PM
Wow, never heard of any issues with the Titan and I know two other Titan owners aside from my dad (albeit they don't tow anything) and neither have had any issues. My dads Titan does have air bags in the rear and aside from a flow master exhaust and intake, its stock.

The Ford 6.0 is lame, and has many issues, stay away from it. But they have addressed that problem. Comparing Diesel's to Gas trucks is dumb. I agree the GM's are the best looking IMO and the tranny is great but they have had some engines that are less than desirable. I believe Dodge's rule the towing world.

The Tundra is a great truck with no real downsides that i can see other than I would like to see a 3/4 ton version. San Antonio built, might I add :)
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, January 14, 2010 1:24 PM
The Titan has a great engine but the rest of the truck sucks for anything other light towing. The Dana 44 rear end is not up to the task. The brakes fade and warp although Nissan did go a long ways to sort of fixing this issue by the THIRD year of production after trying many micky mouse fixes. The suspension lacks travel.

When it first came out the Titan was pretty good compared to its other half ton competitors but Nissan fudged on the tow rating. I don't think it should be anywhere close to 9000 lbs.

I have friends who's diffs glowed red hot before failing and who's brakes warp every time they tow. I have been stranded on the side of the road in a Titan which overheated towing a load of around 6000 lbs.

I know guys with Tundras that tow big enclosed race trailers loaded to 12,000 lbs across country with no problems!
DieselTech
# DieselTech
Friday, January 15, 2010 4:11 PM
I can definitely see where you're coming from Mike. Either way, it looks like you came out of it with a great truck. Ive never driven a Tundra personally, but it seems impressive from how you describe it, and I really love the looks.

Diesels can be more trouble then they're worth sometimes...
Paul
# Paul
Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:09 PM
This tow vehicle stuff is really interesting, even though i'm not a truck person either. i am, however, stuck with an old tow vehicle for my daily driver...
and i have also heard the ford 6.0 is weaksauce. my parents got a new F250 with the new diesel and don't have any horror stories yet, but 30k miles in the not-so-hilly wisconsin countryside isn't a good test. 650lb-ft sure is enough, though. almost.

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