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Chuck pulled the Sentra up to the line and launched hard or at least it sounded hard, actually the experimental clutch didn’t work and slipped, despite having to feather the throttle, the car reached 113.8 mph, and pulled 1.05 G’s of deceleration during its run.  The mph overshoot resulted because of lag in the GPS system, when the GPS indicated 100 mph, the car was actually going much faster.  Because of the slipping clutch and GPS lag it took 20.5 seconds to go from zero to 100 mph back to zero, good for 5th place.  On subsequent runs the car did worse and worse as the clutch slippage increased causing aborted runs.  Despite this problem the little Sentra that could still finished 5th.  In the acceleration results, surprisingly the Sentra had the most area under the curve and finished first!  Imagine what it could have done had the clutch not slipped.

To make things worse Chuck had gotten pulled over by the Nevada State police and ticketed for driving a race car on the highway when he accidentally wandered off the return road.  The Ely City police allow race cars on the streets during the event but the State police were ready and waiting to spring on any unsuspecting race cars that left city limits.   Thank you very much for that state of Nevada.

Don't jump the start or else!  The Sheriff has a gun.  A little color at the starting line for the high noon shootout

Next we were faced with the consideration of changing the clutch before the high noon ½ mile shootout.  We were puzzled that the clutch had not slipped in prior testing at Willow Springs.  I noticed that that the clutch cable was a little to tight and readjusted it and when the clutch cooled down Chuck noticed that it seemed to hold much better so we gambled that the metal disc simply was not broken in enough and opted not to change the clutch.

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The half mile shootout is a flying half mile run to top speed.  Chuck launched the car again and once again the clutch slipped causing him to abort the run.  With 3 more runs left, I advised him to get some heat in the metal disc by creeping the clutch on the line.  On the next run this worked and the clutch gripped better, although the clutch still slipped the little Sentra hit 130 mph in the half mile.  We felt that the car had 150 mph in it as it had accelerated like this on the Salt at Bonneville.  On the next two runs the clutch gripped a little better and the car hit 133 and 134 mph, good enough for 6th place, beating many superior cars many times the price and pedigree of the little old Nissan.  If it was not for the clutch issues the results would have been much better.

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Drew
# Drew
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:24 AM
May I suggest the Big Bend Open Road Race for next spring's road trip?

120 miles total, broken down into 60 mile stages. Sanderson, Tx to Fort Stockton, Texas and back. Its pretty much this event, except in west Texas going down US 285.
Steve
# Steve
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 2:54 PM
Only fair to mention the JUN car had a front flat fire and the driver did an incredible job of bleeding speed from 320 kph down to about 200 before exiting the road and rolling it umpteen times. Plus he walked away, and if you've seen what was left of the inside of the car, holy sh*t!

Chuck that is one nice B12, saw the coverage when it ran at BV...although now it seems somehow "prettier"...graphics maybe?

Man I wish I could have run my Z33 there, bone stock best I ever saw was 142 on the digital dash...I'm sure it had another 10 in there.
Steve
# Steve
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:34 PM
This has about 1:30 more coverage on the JUN 350Z. Very similar but some more content. IDK how to do links here so here's the URL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zOztamVxLc
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:08 PM
I think Dai did some serious driver error, forcing the downshifts that caused the car to destabilize.

I would have rolled the throttle and just let the car bleed off speed aerodynamically. I have been in a car suffered a blown tire while testing at over 150 mph in a banked corner with the chassis loaded and the driver didn't have that much of a problem slowing.
tyndago
# tyndago
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 4:50 PM
In 1999 I did the Big Bend race in Texas, in a GMC Typhoon. 120 mph class. Teched at 165. Hit a max speed of 150 mph in the brick. 59 miles one way. Stop, eat lunch. 59 miles back. We won our class.

We averaged 120 mph in the brick pretty easily. It was a fun time. Fly to Colorado, prep the truck, drive to Texas, do the race, drive back to Colorado.

Open road racing is just nutty when you are standing there. On this highway, looking off into the distance. Watching these cars accelerate off into the distance. Very surreal.
Steve
# Steve
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:14 PM
Mike, good point I never really thought about. I thought in a RWD car downshifting would shift weight to the rear, off the front flatted tire, since things tend to go in the same direction unless something makes them go somewhere else. I can see in my SE-R I'd have no choice but to relax, hold it straight and let its sexy box-like shape bleed off its stupendous speed :)

I thought Dai was doing pretty much all he could since braking was out of the question and he no longer had steering control, about the only thing left was to throw out a boat anchor. But only front flats I ever had I just rode them out w/o shifting because I was going 70 or less. I just eased off the throttle and let it ride.

I am still amazed after rolling that many times and given the interior was not totally intact that he walked away from it with IIRC back injuries but nothing too serious. The again, if he missed rocks, the desert can be a pretty forgiving place to crash compared to forest, etc. Well, if you're not on a Mtn Bike anyway...
Steve
# Steve
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:30 PM
Phew. Finally got to sit down and read the entire article. Great coverage and nice shots of the Narrows. Last time I drove through Ely was in 1985 in a Ford Bronco II (my fiancee later wife, don't blame me!). Does not seem to have changed much other than being infested with Vettes.

Thanks for a good story :)
Miles (San Antonio)
# Miles (San Antonio)
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 5:42 PM
I went over the Go Go Daijiro video about 20 times and I would have to agree.

After Dai's crash, they went back again with another 350Z that Jun prepped yet again with some additional safety features. Dai made it to the end and never really topped the car due to driver error but the tire did blow a cord as well. If Dai had gone full out with that new 350Z, I believe it would have just been another repeat with a potentially worse outcome this time around.

Consequently, it was the front wheels that keep running into the tire blowing situation. I was thinking maybe it was something with the early 350Z inner wheel wear due to the camber issue that was common on the early stock 350Z's. This was so much of an issue that Nissan offered up replacement tires to make up for the design error. Is it just coincidence? I couldn't see how Jun wouldn't catch something like this but then again this was still in the early years of the 350Z when the accident happened at the Silver State Classic.

I would love to see Go Go attempt it a third time, if he hasn't already.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:56 PM
If you have actually seen the course, its pretty dangerous, its a soft shoulder that drops away rapidly about 10 feet to the desert floor thats littered with big rocks.

In the narrows you go off and go right into a rock field, some of the rocks are as big as a car and you can slam into the rock cliffs that are in some places less than 100 feet away from the outside of a turn.

Its serious stuff and several people have died doing the event. A lot of people run with their wife or girlfriend as navigator. Personally I would only do it with a fellow racer who understands the risks and what could happen to you.

This is serious shit
tyndago
# tyndago
Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:19 PM
Yes it is serious. People die every few years. The guy that was in front of us, when we ran died a few years later running the event. Its a pretty sobering thought.
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:52 AM
This is an awesome article. Mike, I didn't even know you went. Let's all go next year. I am trying to get Cosworth to bring the Red Dragon next year. You should talk to Ken about doing a build article so I/we have an excuse to go play next year.

I had dinner with Dai last year and I asked him, "Man, how did did it feel during that crash?" He said (translated by my buddy Toshi), "I've driven cars at high speed that have exploded, crashed, and even flew off the road, but I seriously thought I was going to die that time. I was scared. Thank god JUN built a really good car."
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:37 AM
I am totally down, lets do a Team MotoIQ multi car assault. Chucks car would have easily placed a lot higher had the experimental clutch (fiber tough puck disc) had worked. The SR tranny is so shitty that we were trying to develop a clutch that could hold the power yet cushion the gears. It was ok in testing at SOW but for some reason slipped like a bitch once we were at the event. It seemed to stabilize but it ruined the outcome of several events that the Sentra would have ruled.

Bring out the red dragon and I'll bring the Dog III or my EVO or something! We could do really well, hell a Stock GT-R or GT3 with a cage could do really well. We need to plan and do some logistical support. The XS GT-R would win the acceleration and braking events easily, except maybe not in unlimited. It has to do 200 mph flat out for 90 miles. Well if some of those F-Bodies could we could do it but it would require some development and maybe someone crazy like Tarzan to drive.
Drew
# Drew
Thursday, September 24, 2009 3:45 AM
The Lincoln and the Corvair both made an appearance at Big Bend Open Road Race this year too.

The Lincoln:
http://picasaweb.google.com/ccirclebphotos/Bborr2009#5359859309051106274

The Corvair:
http://www.bborr.com/2009/slant/carshow/%2765%20Corvair.jpg
tyndago
# tyndago
Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:16 AM
Igors R34 is still sitting in a container at RB. It has a sequential , 580 whp, and ABS. It should get up and go 1/2 way decent. I wonder if we can convince Igor to run it or let us borrow it.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:36 AM
Just borrow it, and the rig, we can put all the cars in it and get Victor to drop us all off and pick us up at the finish line.
tyndago
# tyndago
Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:54 AM
Sounds good. I will Victor and Igor know they have been volunteered...ha ha ha.
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Friday, September 25, 2009 1:02 AM
Igor's rig would be perfect Sean. Let's roll.

I'm pretty confident the XS GT-R at lower boost (1.6 bar) around around 750whp can do 91 miles no problem. I'm not sure if Tarzan is crazy enough to do it, but I could ask Dai if he's down. He's pretty psycho like that. Maybe he'll turn it into a Option Video segment too. There's only one thing missing: MONEY.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Friday, September 25, 2009 10:05 PM
Dunno Dai might wreck your car. I think he F----- up when he crashed. I think that was largly driver error. I think he should have just aero bled the speed off.

Tarzan is nutty, I think he would do it. The trick is to only try to do 200 mph in the speed trap in the end.
jahviid
# jahviid
Thursday, October 15, 2009 9:32 AM
trust me mike iwish i was their to gain some hands on experience on what is going on.

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