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Bulletproofing a Ring and Pinion Gear
By Mike Kojima

Our friend Pro Drifter Walker Wilkerson was having a problem.  As of late he has been plagued by drivetrain failures in his Fatlace Nissan S13.  Part of the reason has been that because he competes in Formula D against the big V8’s of other pro teams, with a small displacement boosted SR20DET, Walker must do a lot of clutch kicks to keep the pipey turbo engine in its powerband.

Bulletproofing a Ring and Pinion Gear
Rookie privateer Walker bringing the fight to seasoned pro Chris Forsberg at The Wall.  On his lead run Walker's ring and pinion failed, possibly costing him rookie of the year honors.

This puts a lot of stress on the drivetrain and Walker has had his share of drivetrain issues even with Nissan's normally strong drivetrain.  These issues unfortunately probably kept him from winning Rookie of the Year honors in his first season as a pro.  After a ring gear failure took him out in the New Jersey Formula D round we decided to help Walker out and prep a ring and pinion gearset for him.

Bulletproofing a Ring and Pinion Gear
Even though Walker is one of the few 4 cylinders left in Formula D, he can consistently bring the fight to the high powered V8 cars much to the delight of purest drift fans.  Here is Walker with Ryan Tuerck.


To reduce stress as part of the root cause of the issue, Walker has recently switched to an Exedy carbon twin plate clutch with softer engagement characteristics.   Carbon also resists heat better and can be slipped instead of just kicked.

Bulletproofing a Ring and Pinion Gear
Walker's 2.3 liter SR20DET pumps out power in the mid 500 range, equal to some of his V8 competition, however that power is over a much narrower range and Walker must frequently kick the clutch to keep the turbo SR on the boil creating a lot of stress on the drivetrain.

The Nissan R200 is a pretty strong diff.  We have seen them used many times on V8 powered swaps, high powered turbo Z’s and raced in IMSA with GTO cars pushing 1000 hp.  However due to the unique nature of drifting and the brutal shock of having the clutch kick the engine many times into its powerband, Walker managed to break his.  The diff failed at a crucial moment during a run against Chris Forsberg.   If Walker had advanced, the end of year points might have played out much differently.
 

Bulletproofing a Ring and Pinion Gear
The GT35 twin scroll turbo is fast responding but also has some lag resulting in the need to clutch kick.


Our first step in prepping Walker's spare ring gear set was to send it out to be cryo treated.  Cryo treating is really an extension of the heat treating process.  It sounds like snake oil but it really does work on most steel and iron alloys. Cryogenic treatment involves cooling the parts to the temperature of liquid nitrogen then warming them to close to the tempering temperature which is around 350 degrees several times over a period of about 72 hours.

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Comments

2_Liter_Turbo
# 2_Liter_Turbo
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:29 AM
I need to do this eventually, lol.
econobox
# econobox
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:31 AM
Before and after WPC is amazing! Love that finish.
@2_Liter_Turbo
+2
more_fasterer
# more_fasterer
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:22 AM
Does it matter which order the cryo, shotpeening & WPC treatments are performed in?
Motary
# Motary
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:33 AM
How much did all this cost?
DrunkenMessiah
# DrunkenMessiah
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:55 AM
@ more_fasterer

Actually there is a specific order you should do, and the subject has been covered before. The process they show here on this pinion gear is very similar to many of the steps taken in a previous MotoIQ article about strengthening a Nissan FWD transaxle. The order in which you should apply the improvement processes is the same in which they where presented in this article. First cryo, then shot-peening and finally WPC.
8695Beaters
# 8695Beaters
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:10 AM
Great, more things to add to my S13's to-do list. MotoIQ, you are a detriment to my wallet!
Chris
# Chris "Shaggy" Allen
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:47 AM
Been there and done that.. I have done this whole process.. It made no difference for me at all.. I still managed to break 13 gearboxes .. But maybe if your only slightly stressing the part it might help.. I think this whole process only makes things 10-15% better at best .. ??? The metal is old.. Japanese metal is not the best in the 1st place .. Just have a new one ring and pinion made from super high quality steal .. It doesn't look like a complicated part to have made.. Then your good to go !!
Jonathan
# Jonathan
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:13 AM
Actually, there is no "Old" metal. At gear box temperatures there would be little phase change. The alloying content wouldn't change the overall durability as much as the wear characteristics. The design and post processing of the part in this case is much more important.

I wonder what kind of residual stress the WPC treatment imparts on top of the peen. The plastic deformation of the peen already decreases the surface compressive stress i assume the WPC would just add to the area under the curve. it would be interstign to test.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:31 AM
It makes a huge difference in how long a part lasts. It won't make up for grossly overstressing a part way beyond its design limits. It is not easy or cheap to make gears either. No one will make one off gears for you unless you are willing to spend thousands of dollars and you still would have an undersized overstressed part. I haven't broken a thing since I have done this to my Nissan transmissions, neither have people making up to 350 hp on the crappy FWD Nissan transmission. If you are making over 500 hp no treatment is going to keep a crappy Nissan FF tranny together for long.
Der Bruce
# Der Bruce
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:57 AM
"Shaggy" - Can be more specific on your application in which you broke 13 gearboxes? The science backs up Mike's reasoning for this process in which to strengthen the material but, as stated, some parts, no matter the strengthening and refinement, have their limits! I'm just curious how 13 gearboxes got toasted :)

Mike - Isn't there a way for Walker to get a gear set that will help to keep him in his powerband while being a little easier with the clutch kicks?

Maybe someone needs to convince Randy's Ring and Pinion to come up with some drift solutions!
matt
# matt
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:32 PM
If the diff failed from fatigue, this is a good solution to stop cracks from forming, but if cracks do form, the part will fail faster. I don't doubt that this process increases strength, but it's at the expense of toughness. Allowing for some plastic deformation before failure could keep Walker's car in the run until a new diff can be swapped in, if it can be inspected regularly.

Or maybe just get an EFR turbo ;)
spdracerut
# spdracerut
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:05 PM
As Matt mentioned, cracks are the cause of failure. Super polishing the surface can greatly reduce the likelyhood of cracks forming which significantly increases part life. I think wpc provides a similar process as a micropolish which should greatly improve life.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:18 PM
I have never heard that shotpeening will result in faster failure in any of my materials classes or any of my independent study of the subject. Nor have I found any references in this sort of post treating reducing toughness. Do you have any engineering references I can read?
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:20 PM
Bruce, Shaggy had a 500 plus hp turbo Sentra gearbox eater. He used to like racing exotic cars on the freeway.
Micah McMahan
# Micah McMahan
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 1:48 PM
Mike wrote and article...it involved WPC...I'm not surprised. How much are they paying you anyway? :p
j/k
What was your reason for not investigating REM treatment? Just curious.
warmmilk
# warmmilk
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:37 PM
how come WPC treatment is always such a secret price wise? you listed the approximate price for every service except the WPC treatment. and in every other WPC article where price comes up the answer is always stupidly vague...

can we get a straight answer of the approximate price of the WPC treatment on these parts (with $10)?
spdracerut
# spdracerut
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 2:40 PM
@warmmilk, it does make sense to give a ballpark shotpeening cost as many places do shotpeening. Therefore, knowing a ballpark cost will keep you from getting ripped off.

As WPC is the only one who does WPC, you could just call them.
warmmilk
# warmmilk
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:03 PM
but a ball park price would be nice to know for WPC so I know if I should even bother wasting both our time calling them. I don't see why its so hard just to give a ballpark cost...
Der Bruce
# Der Bruce
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:15 PM
I think I posted some numbers in the last WPC article. Spoke with them, VERY nice.

500 hp through a Sentra!? TOO much, LOL!
matt
# matt
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:29 PM
Didn't mean the peening process reduced toughness, sorry for the confusion Mike. The transformation of austenite to the martensite phase would be responsible for reduced toughness. Example paper: http://ci.nii.ac.jp/naid/110003380220/

I'm not saying it's a bad decision to cryo, as you do get a much higher yield strength out of the steel. Just a trade-off.
matt
# matt
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 4:31 PM
Better paper: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924013607000040
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:36 PM
Matt, I will buy that.

Warm Milk, got to the WPC web site, call them, I am not the WPC price list guy!
Rockwood
# Rockwood
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:42 PM
LOL, 500hp in a Sentra is just getting shit started. The term "shagging a -insert breakable part here-" was coined after Chris "Shaggy" Allen, who once asked me if I wanted to see him strip the gears off of 3rd for fun. ;-p

And yes, Shaggy certainly nuked transmission like they were going out of style. I, however, only nuked 3 SR20 transmissions before I did all of this, minus the WPC (wasn't around yet) to a newer gearbox (but not B15) in my SE-R. That trans lasted through about 20,000 miles of road racing, drag racing, and other hard use. Transmission's still together. Granted, I had less power than the Shagster (462whp vs 497whp), but I had my fair share of Viper, 911 Turbo, Z06 Vette and other "fast" car victims, plus the added abuse of 20 minute full-tilt (22psi) road racing sessions.

I think one of the bigger issues with the FF SR20 trans is the case deforms under mega load (my car made 390lb-ft of torque at the wheels). To help with this, I braced the ends of the case together from the motor mount to the bell housing bolts. If you look at a B15 SR trans, which seems to be reasonably reliable to ~400whp, its gears are only about 10-15% thicker, but it's case weighs about twice as much. Same thing with Honda transmissions: gears aren't much wider, but the case is considerably beefier.
Rockwood
# Rockwood
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:44 PM
Ah yes, in any case, I am a counterpoint to Shaggy. Cryo/shot worked reasonably well for me.
tyndago
# tyndago
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 10:44 PM
I believe in the power of Redline Shockproof Heavy gearoil. I have seen its magic. I shredded a few 3rd gears in Skyline GT-R's. Switched out to some Shockproof Heavy, and it would stand up to some decent abuse. Then a sprung hub clutch, and being nice to it into 3rd let them hold 600+ whp in a 3000 lb car.

Steve did a lot of treatment to his R32 gearbox. Polishing and deburring.

A lot of why things break are the driver. There is a define right and wrong way to do things.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:43 PM
Micah- I had had problems with dimensional changes is parts treated with the REM process, particularly shaft bearing areas even after instructing the operators to avoid doing something what would change dimensions. Since then I have been reluctant to use the process. The vendor was REM themselves so you would think that they would do it correctly. The gearbox in question held up well but I would feel sorry for the next guy who had to take it apart because I had to use loctite green on the bearings to keep them in place.
Tarik Laaraj
# Tarik Laaraj
Thursday, October 20, 2011 6:43 AM
@mike: wouldn't it be better get a z32 r230 with 4.10 leader gears and send it in for treatment?

Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:39 AM
Most of the time you use lower ratios than that in drifting.
Tarik Laaraj
# Tarik Laaraj
Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:50 PM
so the stock ratio of 3.69 is fine, but again wouldnt the larger stronger diff be better?
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:56 PM
No that is even worse. Typicaly a 4.3-4.8 ratio is used.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, October 20, 2011 4:58 PM
Also not much in the way of LSD's avalible for the 230 diff, Kazz discontinued theirs and only the Cusco RS is avalible.

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