Page Options
  Minimize
10

Last week I went testing with the Sierra Sierra team to test out a bunch of new stuff on the EVO 8 at Buttonwillor Raceway. Some of these new modifications include revised front suspension geometry, stiffer spring combo, larger Garrett T04 turbo, Full-Race twin scroll exhaust manifold, larger exhaust, and a pair of larger custom Cosworth cams. Did it all work? So far so good. I think we are definitely making progress. On Hankook C91 DOT tires and the middle boost level, Dave Empringham piloted the car to a 1:44.2 on Buttonwillow's configuration 13 clockwise. Good enough to smoke the Tomei/Cusco STi's, but not quite HKS' 1:43.523 yet.

LIsten carefully at what Dave says at the end of the clip.

We were only really had less than 3 hours of actual track time and this included making setup changes. If we would have spent the entire day on the track, who knows how fast the car could have gone? Emp was still getting used to the car after a weekend at Daytona driving a Mustang (imagine the difference).

FAQ:

Q: Do you think there's a faster time in the car?
A: Yes. We were only testing and setting up the suspension during this test. Dave was still going faster during setup changes. After the 1:44.2 lap, the ring gear in the rear end decided to strip its teeth.

Q: Why did the rear end blow up?
A: Actually the ring gear stripped all of its teeth. It was only designed to have to handle 150hp on street tires. We are asking for it to handle a whole lot more on much stickier tires. There are three sections on the track where the car gets wheel spin and that doesn't help either. You can't really hear it through the tiny mic on video system, but you can hear it loud and clear from the hot pits. I have some tricks up my sleeve to combat that with the Pectel SQ6 ECU and Center Diff Controller.

Q: How much boost was the engine running?
A: I'm not sure why people always ask this question, but I know somebody will ask. Since I'm not discussing turbo size it really is kind of irrelevant, but FYI that pass was at 26psig. Turbo sizing is subject to change anyhow. And yes, it is a genuine Garrett T04 and not a GT. I have set an unofficial limit of 32psig though.

Q: How fast will the SSE EVO 8 go with Emp at the wheel?
A: Nobody knows the answer to that, but it is a personal wish of mine's that it will go 1:40.xx or faster. What a lot of people forget is that the SSE EVO 8 is the newest unlimited class car and has only had 7 months of development. It's first event was at Willow Springs in May of 2009 where it took 1st in class and 2nd overall.

Q: What's next for the car?
A: The usual: more development and testing. The suspension still needs some more setup changes and I need to fine tune the diff and boost. It never ends until we have the fastest time attack car on the planet! Perhaps we will have a chance to fight for the title in Australia.

Here's a pic of the new turbo setup when it was on the dyno at Sierra Sierra. The rubber hoses have since been replaced with Teflon hoses and AN fittings. The Full Race exhaust manifold is a work of art. Geoff and the guys over there really make beautiful parts that truly work. The combination of the new Garrett T04, Full Race exhaust manifold, new exhaust and Cosworth custom cams made peak boost 200rpm earlier and extended the powerband another 400rpm when compared to the GT35R and previous components. Mike at Sierra also fabricated a whole new larger exhaust to accomodate the increase in power. The exhaust note now sounds more pissed off than ever.

Comments

anythingfast
# anythingfast
Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:55 AM
Way to kick some ass man! Good luck to you guys in 2010!
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:59 PM
Yikes! Look at the lateral and braking G's!
M
# M
Friday, February 12, 2010 5:17 AM
200 rpms earlier and 400 more rpms extended....does this engine have mivec? Would it be even broader powerband with a mivec engine...like the EVO X?
gstmike
# gstmike
Friday, February 12, 2010 10:21 AM
That's awesome, can't wait to see you guys back out at the track!
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Friday, February 12, 2010 10:29 AM
This is an EVO 8 engine so there is no MIVEC, but there is plenty of time in tuning the cams to get the optimum cam timing and power band. Variable cams are helpful on street cars, but in a road race or drag car when the engine is always in the higher RPM ranges, variable cams offer very little benefit ir any.

gstmike: yep, see you guys soon!
will
# will
Friday, February 12, 2010 1:47 PM
You guys are serious. Can't wait to see this beast @ BW in March!
mikemiessler
# mikemiessler
Friday, February 12, 2010 5:24 PM
wow that thing is one angry beast! I assume its a race gas car but would it benefit any from the claims of running E85?
jahviid
# jahviid
Friday, February 12, 2010 6:45 PM
the evo 8 looking good so far eric but hope it will be ready for Australia.love the turbo setup its a work of art
Wrecked
# Wrecked
Friday, February 12, 2010 7:03 PM
Why not use a BB turbo?
spdracerut
# spdracerut
Friday, February 12, 2010 8:05 PM
Very nice how the wastegate flows are merged into the downpipe
brandon drecksage
# brandon drecksage
Friday, February 12, 2010 10:45 PM
...can i marry that car?
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Saturday, February 13, 2010 1:55 PM
The wheel sizes we use are not available in BB format. This combo is tried and proven too so there was no need to try something new immediately. I can only use turbos from certain manufacturers too so my choices are somewhat limited as far as wheel, housing, and bearing section combos go. There's nothing wrong with a sleeve/thrust bearing turbo. Cosworth used sleeve/thrust bearing Garretts in 80's F1 and up to 2008 in Champ Car.
JDMized
# JDMized
Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:43 AM
I know my comment might seem irrelevant....but does SSE still run Advan RS wheels? If so (since they're cast)....wouldn't it better to switch to lighter forged wheels?
tyndago
# tyndago
Sunday, February 14, 2010 7:53 PM
Sounds good, kinda like a pissed off LS1. Some of that is the camera. 1:44 is smoking fast.
Full-Race Geoff
# Full-Race Geoff
Monday, February 15, 2010 4:09 PM
Thanks for the props Eric! We are stoked to have our Full-Race Twinscroll manifold on the most epic evo of all time. I think you guys would have find significant gains going to a turbocharger with better wheel aero, hit me up!
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:57 AM
JDMized: I think RS-Ds are cast. Advan RS are forged I believe. Then again, I haven't kept up with the whole JDM wheel world recently.

Geoff: you know me, I'm old school. Sometimes it ain't all about the newest stuff. Old school is often proven and reliable. To prove a point: pushrod LS engines have won LeMans in recent years. But I have had a meeting with BW so something just might happen.

So far the Full Race twin scroll EVO X 4B11T exhaust manifold is ticking away on the engine dyno too with the GT35R. I'll let you know how that ends up working also.
Street Surgeon
# Street Surgeon
Monday, February 22, 2010 8:47 PM
Nice video and car, I do have a question though. Is it required that you re-route your wategates back into the downpipe exhaust stream? That's a lot of exhaust volume that could just be dumped instead of plumbed back into the system. Or is it more of an aero / heat concern?
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 1:22 AM
JDMized: you're right Advan RS are cast. New wheels are on the way anyhow because of the switch to a 10.5" wide wheel.

Street: No, it is not required that we re-route the w/gs back in. It is more of an aero concern at the moment. Actually it is not very much exhaust volume being bypassed with the large turbine housing A/R and boost levels that. Remember that the job of a wastegate is only to relieve exhaust pressure before the turbine wheel. A w/g is not supposed to be a red neck style Y-pipe exhaust cutout.
Street Surgeon
# Street Surgeon
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 5:48 AM
Ah, yeah I suppose if you're running a lot of boost then wastegates don't see a whole lot of use anyway, especially when two of them are dividing up the duty.

Post Comment

Only registered users may post comments.

          MotoIQ Proudly Presents Our Partners:


Copyright 2012 by MotoIQ.com
Privacy StatementTerms Of UseAdvertise