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Nissan QR25DE balance shaft assembly
The balance shaft assembly is found in the bottom of the oil pan submerged in oil.  It is the weakest link in the chain when the QR25DE is modified.  On 2007 and later QR25DE's, the balance shafts were deleted. 

One of the first issues that JWT addressed in our motor is the problems of seizing balance shafts.  Balance shafts work to cancel out a 4 cylinder engines inherent up and down shaking moments and spin at twice the crank rpm.  This means that at 6100 rpm the shafts are zinging at 12200 rpm, it’s a small wonder that they have problems with seizing in their housings. If you raise the rev limit much past the embarrassingly low stock limit of 6100 rpm, the balance shafts seize in their bores creating a chain of events that destroys the engine.  On the QR, the balance shafts are the first failure point.

JWT also felt that the balance shafts helped to contribute to some of the QR25's other problems, excess oil consumption and bearing failure. The balance shafts are submerged in the oil pan and when spinning at 12,000+ rpm they churn the oil to a frothy mixture of oil and air.  This aerated oil, if ingested by the oil pump can cause bearing failures.  The churning balance shafts can also fling oil around inside the block contributing to excess windage and increased oil consumption.

Jim Wolf Technology QR25DE Balance shaft removal kit
JWT balance shaft eliminator kit removes the problem and also features a pan baffle and windage tray to help control oiling better as well.

JWT removed the balance shaft assembly to address these problems.  On the QR the balance shafts are chain driven from the crank and contained in a separate assembly bolted to the main caps.  JWT used their balance shaft removal kit which has spacers for the main cap bolts, plugs for the oil passages and instructions on how to remove the drive chain for the shafts.  The kit also comes with a windage tray to help speed the return of oil off the crank and free up some power caused by the crank spinning in a cloud of oil.  The kit also includes a pan baffle to help ensure that the oil pump can still be submerged in oil even under hard cornering.  The total oil capacity is increased by a quart as the balance shaft assembly is submerged in oil and its removal makes room for more oil.  Eliminating the balance shafts and the oil demand from their journal bearings increases oil pressure and makes more oil available for the main and rod bearings. The balance shaft removal kit doesn’t seem to cause more perceptible vibration and frees up an additional 8-10 wheel hp.

QR25DE vs SR20DE crank
When compared to the beefy SR20 crank, it is easy to see that the QR totally lacks any overlap of the rod and main bearing journals.  Lack of overlap makes for a much weaker crank.

Nissan probably deemed the balance shafts necessary because they used a lightweight crankshaft with only 4 counterweights probably in an effort to reduce reciprocating weight and windage losses. Unfortunately the crankshaft is weak with no journal overlap and not enough bearing area to support higher loads and revs.  The crankshaft has proven to be failure prone in the RTR World Challenge racer.  JWT addressed this problem by using a 2006 and later crankshaft.  The 2007+ QR crank is from the later model B16 Spec-V QR25DE variant. This engine has a 7000 rpm redline.  This is how the QR25DE should have been from the launch.  The late model engine has a fully counterweighted crankshaft with generous fillets for additional durability.  JWT Deburred and balanced the late model crank , WPC ( read about how WPC works here) treating it to reduce friction and help improve fatigue strength.

Early vs late QR25DE crank
The 2007 crank on the bottom features full counterweights and beefier construction.  Note the additional material in the cheek area of the throws.  JWT balanced, mircopolished and WPC treated the crank for strength.

 

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Comments

AlexSpecV
# AlexSpecV
Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:25 PM
Great article! Though, correct me if i'm wrong but i think its only the 2007+ with the updates to the QR. I have an 06 Spec V and my limit is still 6100 and i still have the Balance shafts (trying to save up for the JWT Kit).

Will the 07+ crank fit without modification to a 02+ block? Also are the pistons/rods that JWT prototyping here being made specifically for the QR with an 07+ crank? Will they work for the older QR crank?

I'm glad to finally see someone starting to get some support to the QR and to help those that own one to find their weakpoints beforehand.
Ben
# Ben
Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:11 PM
Ugh! I know they work well when built right but.... I am really hoping the QR gets the ax soon. I already jumped ship for a K20A3.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:30 PM
Alex, my bad, I made a mistake, it is 2007 and later. The late model crank needs a different signal wheel and we will get into this later.

Our base block is a older one so it will all fit.
Big J
# Big J
Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:33 AM
The cranks, headgaskets, connecting rods (way better design), pistons (higher compression), rings, bearings, etc. will all swap w/o issue. So will some other trick stuff in the head. I'm sure that'll be getting written up later.

The cool parts are found in the QR25DE with the "6MT" designation. The crank is specific, as are the rods, and pistons. The new "6MT" rods have bolts designed to take the higher tensile loads due to the jump from a 6200 redline to a 7000 rpm redline, and the cross section is much better also.

Isaiah
# Isaiah
Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:14 PM
Best Engine Ever Made!!
urbanjacup
# urbanjacup
Friday, January 22, 2010 6:03 AM
Mike you're definitely the leader of the QR Cult...those familiar know the potential is there, with a lot of work...Nissan mislead consumers with the SE-R badge back in 2002 and continue to with the B16...Its no longer a badge with a standard, its just a badge that might sell more cars...

Still, you'll find a small contingent of owners who have done some pretty interesting builds with the QR. Along with yours, my interest remains and continues my love hate relationship with this car...

cbjmw45
# cbjmw45
Friday, January 22, 2010 11:46 AM
do you guys know if there is info on a successful swap of the new qr into a b15? if anyone has any info please send my way. i am would be interested in attempting this before trying to piece together my current engine when it finally needs a rebuild\upgrade work. mike great article and thanks for all your dedication put forth to educate the community.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Friday, January 22, 2010 11:55 AM
Its been done many times before.
sticky667
# sticky667
Friday, January 22, 2010 12:34 PM
I think he was asking about the entire lump...rumor has it that the block casting and mount points are different.

side question: Do you know if Clark ever messed with any N/A QR parts? I've finally got those QR20 pistons and the crown is pretty large compared to the stock QR25 piston. Justin calculated ~12.4:1 on a stock B15 motor.
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Monday, January 25, 2010 4:23 PM
Big J is the guy you want to ask about that. He is mulling over destroked QR's. He is on this forum all the time.
sticky667
# sticky667
Monday, January 25, 2010 8:50 PM
ya we talk pretty frequently, just curious if Clark ever did anything with an N/A motor
trailbrake2088
# trailbrake2088
Monday, April 05, 2010 10:12 PM
I can't understand why people hate the b16 so much? I love it. Anyway how did they increase the rpm's on the new qr25's with such a high piston speed?
Mike Kojima
# Mike Kojima
Monday, April 05, 2010 10:16 PM
Um, the article explains all that in quite a bit of detail....
CrickiKaze
# CrickiKaze
Tuesday, February 08, 2011 1:25 PM
I would love to get a simaliar combo on the pistons and rods but fo a higher compression

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