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After that last update there was nothing else to update on since the car was retired due to the broken lower A-arm mount at the tub after 9.5 hours and 24X (two hundred forty something) laps. Unfortunately the team had 4 of everything except the part that broke. The track machine shop's lathe wasn't able to cut metric threads and they nobody had a M14x2.0 die either. It was unfortunate that the car was retired since the BMC Tool Panoz was the fastest car on the track. Not only did it qualify on pole, but Dino, Sean, and Erich were able to crank out consistently quicker lap times than the ALMS Porsche entries one of which eventually won the race. In fact, there were only 3 leaders during the entire race: the Ehret Winery ALMS Porsche GT3, the Patron ALMS Porsche GT3, and the BMC Tool Racing Panoz DP-02. It was good to know that in a sprint race, the Panoz would have done really well against these two Porsches with factory Porsche drivers from Germany and RSR engines.

Overall I had a great time. I was fortunate enough to go to Thunderhill with a somewhat properly funded team (there was a limited budget) with the goal of winning. I'm too old to be doing it because I love it with a poorly funded team. That might have been 15 years ago. If I'm going to put the time and effort in with a team, car, and engine, we have to have a chance of winning. Now that I have broken my enduro virginity, here are some random thoughts on enduros:

  • It is was WAY too damn cold for any person to be outside in November 2 hours north of Sacramento, CA. The wind made it truly bone chilling. When you're out in the mountains snowboarding it's cool because you are moving around. When you are staring at a computer monitoring the telemetry screen sitting on your ass, you're pretty much fucked. I had on 7 layers: wife beater, t-shirt, team fleece, team jersey, jacket, and wind breaker. I had my snowboarding socks on and a beenie. YOU MUST BRING THERMAL UNDERWEAR to this event.
  • I was able to continually develop the engine calibration and get every last drop of fuel mileage over the two test days and even during the 9.5 hours of the race the car was in. Fuel mileage kept getting better and better as I cranked out the fuel saving strategies. I was acting DAG (data acquisition guy) although I really am just an engine guy. I cannot express how instrumental Mark_F was to helping me get the telemetry, dash, and logger setup. Thanks Mark!
  • The 25 hours of Thunderhill is basically a club racing event with some race cars present. I think some teams use the event as a reliability test for their cars, driving training, and some pro teams are there just for shits and giggles since the racing seasons are over. Basically everybody is there to have a good time which provides a great vibe. Everybody is pretty friendly.
  • Anybody can win. Last year an MX-5 won outright. On that note, anything can happen in an endurance race. You can break down, fix the car in the pits for a couple hours, bring it out again and still win the event. That didn't happen this year since the Porsches kept on going and going like Energizer bunnies though.
  • It's all about minimizing your pit stops and time spent in the pits. Every little thing adds up to a lot. For example, saving 20 seconds x 20 stops = 400 seconds or almost 7 minutes or roughly 4 laps over the course of 25 hours. Another example would be 7.8 vs. 7.9 miles per gallon: over the course of 2200 miles, you would be saving 525 miles of fuel or almost one fuel stop. It all adds up in an enduro. I saw teams changing tires in the pits. Why would you do this and not change them in the hot pit? Perhaps it's a different mind set when you aren't trying to win? EDIT: I forgot it was a class thing. Some classes are only allowed to change one tire in the hot pit to prevent baller teams from unlimited tire changes without penalty.
  • I think racing for 25 hours is a true testament to how well a car is built and packaged. I guess it proves the drivers are consistent too, but for me it's all about the cars. There are plenty of good drivers (or a dude on meth) who can drive 25hrs, but can a car last 25? Only the good ones (with some luck thrown in the mix). It's definitely a challenge for drivers too, but they're the ones behind the wheel having a blast. 

The BMC Tool Racing team was great to work with. There was TJ from tool who was acting team manager, MJ from the Atlantic series acting as crew chief, Gumby and Zumida from Atlantics wrenching, Kate from Star Mazda, Jason and David from Stop Tech brakes, me from Cosworth,  Honda (Robert) from Road Race Engineering, Tommy from San Pedro, Dave and Jamie from Tool, and of course the drivers Erich from Tool, Sean from BMC, and Dino from Stop Tech brakes. It was a fun experience and of course I wished we could have completed the 25 hours, but that's what next year has in store I hope. This year was practice for next year. It looks like we'll be showing up with a 450hp turbo engine next year (Mitsu 4B11T?). Big power, no wammies.

Comments

gman
# gman
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:59 AM
Eric, how did you get each calibration into the ECU? Wireless? or download during each pitstop? I think the big $$$ guys use wireless transmission while the car is on track... I may be smoking crack though.
tyndago
# tyndago
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 5:16 PM
Tire changes. Not sure if it was the same for the car you were running, but the NASA rules for most of the classes state you can only change one tire at a time in the hot pit. That's one each pit stop. Probably why you see some teams go behind the wall.

I was up there with Dan's Scion TC. We only did 6 hours of the event. Forget doing 25 hours,that is a little excessive. We were 1/2 way home to LA by the time the 25 hour was over.

We got black flagged twice for sound before 5 pm, had to replace one tire due to crash damage. Replaced two front tires due to wear, and went though 101% of the front pad. Our fuel stops are quick, and we can only put a maximum of 10 gallons per stop. I think it was 7 fuel stops for the Scion.

The Scion won the E1 class, and then that's 4 out of 5 wins in E1 for the WERC series for the year.
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:32 AM
Greg: I was uploading calibration changes during pit stops. It kind of worked because there were so many unscheduled stops. We were using borrowed telemetry equipment which wasn't the high end stuff that allowed changes via telemetry.

Sean: You reminded me about the tire change rule (which I edited above). Our class (ESR) allowed more than one tire to be changed in the hot pit. Did you guys see the other Chris Rado influenced tC?
M
# M
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:57 AM
Thanks for the props. You are a very quick learner.

There is wifi hubs that we sell, but rarely used. At some ovals you can create a permanent connection.

Currently there are 3 main types of telemetry in US 900mhz, 400mhz, and microwave.
900 lets you use a portion of FCC frequencies that are fair game. Anyone can use them for telemetry. 400 mhz require selecting a frequency and registering it. Currently from my understanding, both of these are one way for the most part. Well, at least in my applications. You are receiving data over the speed of a dial up modem aproximately. The microwave technology first used in F1 as far as i know allows for HUGE throughput. Enough that you can send a burst of the entire lap at rates HIGHER than usually logged allowing for more data to be sent over telemetry than can usually be stored on a box. Even with a 100T line, a 4 GB datalogger is a slow offload. Therefore if you can get the full lap of high logger rate during the run, you can get more over telem than in the logger, or more conveniently at least!

I think what it really comes down to is reliable coverage, you would hate to have a calibration stall midway through, unless there are some checksums...etc.

Anyways, that is not what this article is fully about.

Good work! Next year will be even better.
Leon
# Leon
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:50 PM
I was just wondering how cold it got there? I think a proper investment in proper clothing is needed!

You guys did 24X laps in 9 hours. How did that compare to some of the other guys that were out there that day?
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Thursday, December 10, 2009 12:57 AM
Mark, I need to get up on some 400MHz equipment. I guess the 900MHz stuff is great for an oval where there is always line of sight. Once again, thanks for all the info and help!

Leon, it was 33degF on Saturday at the race. We did 24X laps in 9 hours, but we had about 1 3/4 hours of time spent in the pits fixing shit and modifying the exhaust. We would have completed more laps in 9 hours if there were no unscheduled stops. I'm not sure where to look for lap count info indexed by time.
gumby
# gumby
Saturday, December 19, 2009 2:05 AM
Eric

Loved reading your posts from the 25. No sugar-coatting or nothing. I especially liked the comments about living at the shop. Once MJ moved out Me and Z moved right in for a couple of days in the TOTE. Also the living off takeout hit the nail on the head. Despite all the grogginess and headaches of the whole experience It was one of the best times racing I have ever had, and I am looking forward to next year when we unveil the "Out For Blood 2" edition of the Panoz Or whatever gun we bring to the next knife fight.

Gumby
Eric Hsu
# Eric Hsu
Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:53 PM
Gumby: you guys were the ones living at the shop. I was lucky enough to just come and help out when I was needed, but I've been in those situations many a time and am familiar with the fast food diet of last minute race car preparation. I'm glad the car did as well as it did for as short of a time it was built it. I think the results were just short of amazing. If we finished, it definitely would have been amazing.

It was great working with you guys. I too am ready for the Desert Eagle 50 cal we bring to the knife fight next year! At Tool, there have been discussions of a 997 GT3 cup car with a RSR engine, the Lola ex-ALMS car, or bringing back the Panoz in turbo form. Either way it should be exciting.

Eric
MontinolaRacing
# MontinolaRacing
Sunday, December 27, 2009 6:29 PM
Eric - Good seeing you up there and thank your team for providing us with some additional lights for our pit stops ;) It was a tight fit but everything worked out well.

Let me know if you guys need another driver for next year!

Robbie

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