trailbrake2088
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| 12-01-2009 05:32 PM |
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Hello ! I just wanted a few opinions. Would you guys recomend a 2001 sentra se or a 2002 sentra ser. I have heard there are problems with the qr? Is this true? Anyway let me know what you think, I am on a budget and want to autocross.
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smartbomb
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| 12-01-2009 05:53 PM |
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The QR is a great engine as far as power and delivery, it is just fragile. |
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urbanjacup
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| 12-02-2009 03:44 AM |
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#1: If you really drive the SER/QR hard, which I did approx. 72k in my first 3 years, there is always the possibility of the primary cat breaking up (pre-cat failure) and going into the engine causing a multi cylinder misfire = engine failure (this happened to my QR, though I was saved by my 100k warranty along with a subtle threat to Nissan, ultimately receiving a new engine)...I've been running the Nismo header on my 2nd QR ever since, no issues what so ever... #2: Loctite your butterflys #3: Nissan has open recalls on certain Vins, check the Vin#...specifically there are ECU reprogramming recalls... #4: Head Gasket are also known to go at higher mileage... #5: Check your oil reguarly, get to know if/how much you might be burning... Its always a popular car for autoxing...stock/stx...I would bypass the SER if you're looking to autox and take advantage of the spec v's helical limited-slip differential... |
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sticky667
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| 12-02-2009 06:12 AM |
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you can always buy the LSD and put it in the 5 spd.. don't be fool by having a "spec v" only .. especially if you're going to change out the suspension.. not much else is different. |
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gpeters
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| 12-02-2009 10:21 AM |
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Andrew, if you are on a budget, stick with the old B-13, B-14 chassis with sr20's. the chassis is lighter than the portly fat B-15 chassis. ONLY the great Kojima can produce a cool B-15.  sorry, but I don't like b-15 chassis let alone that stupid qr25 motor and its problems. man, you could pick up a B-13 SE-R for a grand or so and up grade with a ton of mods for the same price for a stock B-15! |
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urbanjacup
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| 12-02-2009 11:00 AM |
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Posted By sticky667 on 12-02-2009 08:12 AM
you can always buy the LSD and put it in the 5 spd.. don't be fool by having a "spec v" only .. especially if you're going to change out the suspension.. not much else is different.
definitely, but you're assuming a lot here...if you are that capable and have the time, thats a great way to go...
Posted By gpeters on 12-02-2009 12:21 PM
Andrew, if you are on a budget, stick with the old B-13, B-14 chassis with sr20's. the chassis is lighter than the portly fat B-15 chassis. ONLY the great Kojima can produce a cool B-15. sorry, but I don't like b-15 chassis let alone that stupid qr25 motor and its problems.
man, you could pick up a B-13 SE-R for a grand or so and up grade with a ton of mods for the same price for a stock B-15!
the sr20 speaks for itself...I will stay away from any sort of great debate flamewar (I'm not bias)...its old school vs. new school...I for one agree 100% that going B13-14 route is great option ...if you can find the right one, with the right mileage (not looking to rebuild)...it depends on your budget, ect...
If you're looking to autox...what class?...how competitive do you want to be (the sentras are limited beyond certain classes)...and if you really want to invest money right, start researching tire/wheel setup...thats best place start spending money, if you want to be a cone killer... |
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Big J
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| 12-02-2009 06:23 PM |
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the B15 vs. the b13 or the SR20 vs QR25............ where to start |
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natethebrown
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| 12-03-2009 10:06 AM |
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The fact you can get a JDM lowport sr20 for approx $500 shipped should tell you which route to go. You can get a used b13 or b14 tranny for $300 also. b13s and b14s are very cheap and easy to maintain and make great cars to work on. |
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Big J
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| 12-03-2009 07:42 PM |
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flash forward to 2019 and the QR and B15 will be as old as the B13 and SR are now....... |
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gpeters
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| 12-04-2009 08:50 AM |
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Posted By Big J on 12-03-2009 09:42 PM
flash forward to 2019 and the QR and B15 will be as old as the B13 and SR are now.......
hopefully by 2019 a GTR will fall into my price range, hmmm yeah right, I'm still dreaming. |
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Benito Malito
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| 12-17-2009 08:04 AM |
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I'd take an older SE-R if I were you. Surprise surprise. They seem more competitive in auto-x and I know I like driving them better. Just be ready to put in more time fixing little things like ball joints wheel bearings bushings to get it ready. As to your actual question I would say neither. |
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trailbrake2088
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| 04-05-2010 05:00 PM |
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Thanks all for your replies! I went with a sr20de. I found a good deal on a 1993.5 p10 g20. I want to post pics on here photobucket? Anyway I really like the torque of the sr20de compared to the hondas I have owned it is also very comfy. I am looking to run in stock prepared I believe maybe ots street prepared, anyway current mods are weapon r WAI and an apexi ws2 custom catback setup. So tell me what ya'll think! |
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smartbomb
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| 04-05-2010 06:53 PM |
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G20 is a good car but hard to find parts for. |
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trailbrake2088
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| 04-05-2010 07:42 PM |
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I know they are fairly pricey too! I have so far replaced, starter,knock sensor,valve cover gasket , oil pan gasket,complete tune up, map sensor,brakes all around,fuel pump, and egr plus other various hoses! It turns out the car I bought for 500 turned into 1500 fairly quickly. I'm already wanting to save up to swap too lol. It seems like the easiest swap is a sr20det? Anyway I don't want to do a really difficult one as it would be my first. |
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smartbomb
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| 04-05-2010 08:27 PM |
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Probably an SR20VE is easier. Less likely to kill the fragile tranny as well. |
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sticky667
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| 04-06-2010 06:50 AM |
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if this is your first modified car, learning the maintenance and getting the car up to snuff should be first on the agenda. then you can take it out to autox or track days and improve your driving. fluids, brakes, bushings, tires, tune up etc are priorities for having the car survive any extra curricular activities. if you neglect these, you will be putting yourself and others at risk. being stranded at the track is also not the funnest way to spend $150+ on a wasted registration and travel |
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trailbrake2088
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| 04-06-2010 11:16 AM |
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So suspension first. Got it. What tires do you guys run? We carry toyos at our shop. I had the proxes 4 they seemed nice, maybe a track dedicated tire? |
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Slartibartfast
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| 04-06-2010 11:19 AM |
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I know where there's a SR20DE(t) pulled from a wrecked G20. The owner moved on to BMWs before he could find another P10 to put it in. PM me and I'll put you two in contact. |
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smartbomb
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| 04-06-2010 01:44 PM |
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haha, I know who you are talking about. |
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Slartibartfast
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| 04-06-2010 02:25 PM |
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Yeah, Mike, he's finally getting around to doing something with it. I guess donating his SE-R motor for the race car and hauling the rusted B13 hulk away provided some motivation. His SE-R days are done except for the LeMons car. He does lament the change -- he loves how easy the SR20 and B13 are to work on. |
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