posted on September 15, 2010 22:01
Announcing the MotoIQ Pacific Tuner Car Championship Series!
MotoIQ Staff Report
Are you bored with track days and HDPE events? Ever wanted to see what you have and go wheel to wheel with other tuning enthusiasts? Ever wanted to see who's the best driver and who could build the best car? Ever then go to a legal sanctioned racing event only to find that your lovingly built street car is only legal in some super unobtainable class because of your tuning and the parts you installed? Ever then find out that you can only race if you took off 80% of your hard earned parts only to race in some boring close to stock class?
For example, a Nissan 240SX, S13 chassis with an SR20DET swap with an upgraded turbo and front mount intercooler would be illegal to race in most current wheel to wheel classes obtainable to a person of average means. Same thing with a Honda Civic with a Jackson Racing supercharger. Not our class, bring it on.
Got an aero kit? No problem, Turbo kit or Supercharger kit? No problem. Cool suspension, big brakes? Bring it on. In our class, the cars are governed by power to weight ratio and tire size, not parts restrictions. Other rules prevent unreasonable and expensive custom mods but nearly any available off the shelf aftermarket part is allowed.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:11 AM
This sounds awesome. Is there a liscence or certification required? sounds like it's catering to ameteurs and enthusiasts which is awesome, but also sounds pretty risky. Im betting the response will be huge, now if only you can try to spawn something on the right coast?
Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:38 AM
This sounds awesome! Fuergrissa, there will be issues with n00bs but at the same time it offers an obtainable outlet for many people interested in running W2W or competitive driving. Not to say that NASA or SCCA isn't obtainable, but for the slew of enthusiasts that have a built car and don't want to build a second (for classed competition) this is perfect.
Plus, there will be a lot of higher level drivers and builders attracted to an "outlaw" style racing series. It sounds kind of like a min CanAm, which is sweet! I'm glad someone finally decided to do this.
I'm definitely game, that's for sure :D
Now make a grassroots time attack to fill the void RTA rule changes left and the world will be whole once more (and improved).
Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:24 AM
Awesome guys! There is a reason why Redline and MotoIQ are my favorite things in motorsports.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:51 AM
THANK YOU!!! It's amazed me that races in video games were always run more logically than in real life. This is like a video game race brought to life. Now all I need to do is move out west...
Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:22 AM
Meant to add, any plans to extend this to the East Coast? I'd love to drive to Watkins Glenn, Road Atlanta, Barber MS Park, VIR, etc. to see some real cars go head to head.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:34 AM
The series for this year is going to follow RTA's schedule which is going to be around 10 west coast events.
Don't worry, there is going to be a RTA Pro-Am series that will be announced on Saturday as well to feed the pro series and satisfy the grassroots drivers. Stay tuned!
Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:20 AM
Hey guys, congrats on getting this going! It was interesting to read the early thoughts of this in the forums and to see it actually come to fruition is amazing!
I'm also curious, is there a racing license required for this? Someone mentioned video game races, and I immediately thought of GT4 where I've been comically outmatched (old Ginetta G4 vs. late model AMG???) and where I've used opponents to aid braking.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:46 AM
A racing license will be required to participate. We'll accept licenses from other respected sanctioning bodies (SCCA, NASA, BMWCCA, PCA, EMRA, etc.). For those who do not have racing licenses, they will need to follow a multi-step process of attending our Pro-Am weekends for a few events, then attend a race weekend on a probationary status for a few races, then a full license will be granted once it is proven to us you know what you are doing and are safe out on track.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:53 AM
how many classes will there be? when does all the offical stuff come for this series? :)
Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:00 AM
There will be two classes, Tuner Under or TU which will run a 12:1 power to weight ratio and Tuner Over or TO which will run a 8:1 power to weight ratio. Cars will also be somewhat restricted on tire size to help equalize things.
Their will be some smart rules that will give a builder a lot of freedom to create, for manufactures to showcase parts and to also contain costs. This isn't exactly intended to be a low cost class but it can be relatively low costs if you are clever and there is lots of room for you to do that.
Stay tuned for rules and other news here!
Thursday, September 16, 2010 12:16 PM
So licensing will be essentially the same format as NASA? Sounds good. Definitely looking forward to this! And of course the RTA announcement as well. Thanks guys! Everyone I've discussed this with has given me nothing but positive feedback. I think you've come up with an excellent idea that may have opened a huge door for the industry and enthusiasts.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:17 PM
Nice! Power to weight somewhat equalizes things, and 2 classes keeps it simple.+1 for an East Coast series - so many things I have not done to stay legal in the ST4 classing for TT's here. Same for DSP/FSP Autocross. Any power mods like even the C2 cams at EMRA events for example, I'm in a run group with cars 2x the power, not a great mix. Instead I run with a more experienced group than casual drivers but with cars of comparable mods, comparable power...and too many of those won't do Enduros, Sprints, etc.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:50 PM
Wow, this is an awesome idea! Now you just need to have a series on the EAST coast!
Thursday, September 16, 2010 6:56 PM
Just in case no one has mentioned it.... We need more EAST COAST events!
Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:13 PM
Sweet, time for Igor to break out the World Challenge R34 GT-R.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 7:25 PM
That is a perfect car for this series.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 8:54 PM
Some questions - I know we covered this on the phone, but I wanted to post it.
1) What size , brand, and treadwear tires will be legal?
2) Why no sequential or dog boxes?
Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:04 PM
The World Challenge car is too powerful, too much tire, and too much transmission
585 whp , 3000 lbs dry , 305 tire all around, and Holinger sequential transmission.
Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:38 PM
Read the new rules post above this one. Any tire with a UTOG of 50 and above will be legal. For the R34, put a stock tranny back in, turn down the boost and put some smaller tires back in and you are good. If you are really going to race the R34 I will spec a tire size for it. It will be smaller than 305 though.
I disallowed dog boxes because they are expensive and don't bring any value to the series.
Friday, December 10, 2010 8:37 AM
How Long of a series is this to be?